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Angela
We are so excited today to have Matt Cassava join us. He is the CEO at Arizona Regional MLS and a great friend that goes way back. I welcome you Matt. Thank you for joining us.

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Matt
Thank you for inviting me. I’m glad to be here and I’m looking forward to chatting about MLS for a bit.

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Angela
Absolutely. It’s a hot topic. But before we begin, we have a tradition on the RealTea podcast. We ask all of our guests what is in your tea cup?

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Matt
What is in my tea cup?

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Angela
Yes. What do you take in your tea cup?

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Matt
Tea.

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Angela
You drink tea. What kind of tea?

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Matt
Earl gray. Ooh. Also sometimes comes to comment.

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Angela
Oh, I haven’t heard of that one. What is that?

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Matt
It has a little bit of an orange spice to it. Quite flavorful. Goes back to my college days. I drink a lot of tea in college. I don’t drink coffee much, and I always drink a lot of tea. But. But what’s in my other cups is whiskey. Because I enjoy a good whiskey and my wife and I enjoy it together.

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Matt
And we have a whiskey room.

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Angela
Oh, wow. When we talk.

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Matt
Hobby and we have about 200 open bottles, and we have a lot of friends who like to stop by.

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Angela
So the next time you’re in Tennessee, we need to make sure you get some good whiskeys.

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Matt
Oh, absolutely. I have some on the shelf, but I’m always, always room for more.

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Angela
There you go. There you go. Okay, so you are, in my opinion, an MLS guru. So that’s why we always turn to you when it comes to MLS. We know you know your stuff when it comes to MLS. So I want to start out with the very first question and have you tell us about how the MLS system has evolved over the years, because I know you’ve been with MLS for a very long time.

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Matt
Yeah, that’s that’s a huge question. We could spend two days on that topic. I’ll give the 40,000ft overview MLS has started is really card systems. And it was a broker co-operative exchange with these cards. And then they evolved to single page printouts and that evolved into books. And that’s where the MLS really took off. It was this concept of books.

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Matt
And we ended up with 900 mls is across the country because it’s a lot of times it was dictated how far the truck could drive Thursday morning from the printing press to the office where those office meetings were being held. They print those books every two weeks in the supplement the following week. And so MLS got stuck in a rut of 900 MLS is because of this concept of books.

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Matt
But we left books, we went to modern banks, and now we’re a fully online services. And with broker load happening on the keyboard and MLS just need to continue to evolve how they think. It’s no longer about how far the truck can drive from the printing press to the office, because information moves from Arizona to Nashville just as quickly as it does from Arizona to from Tempe to Scottsdale.

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Matt
And we’ve got to keep in mind that MLS has need to continue that evolution. So we’ve come a long way, but we have a lot more a lot further to go and we will get there. We continue to create efficiencies for our brokers and our subscribers, and it’s that concept of efficiencies for our brokers and subscribers. And I encourage all MLS is to take to heart.

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Angela
Right. It’s been a long time since we’ve had those books hasn’t it?

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Matt
It books. You know, what’s funny is, is books really went away in the late 90s, but, there are some that stuck around in the 20 teens. But there was only in the pandemic was the first year I did not get at least one request to bring back the book, so I got requests all the way up to 2020 from some of our subscribers to bring back the book.

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Matt
And I just haven’t heard it much since. But yeah, it’s been a while. But it is. It is part of our legacy.

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Angela
Yeah. So in your opinion, what are some of the key benefits that the realtors and the home buyers and sellers, I would say, gain from having the MLS.

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Matt
The MLS creating network effect with all this data. And if you have the coverage of the data, it gives a repository that gives great transparency and clarity to buyers and sellers. That’s the benefit of it. MLS is rarely compete in geographical markets because it’s inefficient. It’s that completeness of the data that gives the clear picture for the buyer to see what’s available, and for the seller to understand how to market and price their property in conjunction with their agent.

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Angela
Right. It’s a big information. Communication tool for everybody to have the accurate information.

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Matt
Yeah, accuracy is the key. If the data is garbage, the tools inefficient for everyone. You have to make sure that every MLS focuses their efforts on data integrity and data accuracy in MLS. We take that to heart deeply. So much so that we have a fine structure in place. We have a whole lot of things we won’t fine on because it doesn’t harm the data.

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Matt
You got something wrong, we’ll fix it with you and move on. But there are some things that harm the data. And when you harm the data, we take that seriously. And we do have a fine structure in place. And I’m proud to say that our leadership and our organization many, many years ago decided we wanted great data but didn’t want to find money ever.

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Matt
So we set up a method to donate that money. Each year. We put part of it into a realtor disaster assistance foundation administered by the state. We put part of it into an educational scholarship at Arizona State University. We took the last third and spread it around to a couple different charities each year with down payment assistance program, homebuyer programs, those types of things, everything has to be related to real estate.

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Matt
So we do take data integrity incredibly. We are very, very sensitive to it, and we’re very staunch on our dedication to it. We’re resolute. But from that data integrity standpoint, we just want great data, not money.

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Angela
Right. And what a great way to contribute back to your, your community and all the things you listed. So congratulations on that. But let’s talk about the transparency of the data and what that means for the buyers in the sellers.

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Matt
Yeah. The transparency comes in the ability to see what’s around the corner and in the neighborhood. And many MLS have changed from marketing platforms to property centric platforms. And if you’re MLS hasn’t changed your property center platform and you’re a realtor affiliated, you have our PR which is a property centric platform and it allows you to see everything.

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Matt
Then a very clear picture of the entire subdivision, not just what’s being actively marketed at that moment. It’s that clarity. It’s that transparency that allows agents to guide their buyers and sellers through the transaction, knowing what should be offered or what should be, the asking price of a home, knowing what other homes around are transacting are what other homes have transacted.

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Matt
So it’s a whole compilation of a lot of layers and layers of data that helps inform the consumer. The MLS is not a consumer driven tool. The MLS is an agent driven tool, but we have to keep in mind that that agent needs to interact with the consumer with that data, and we have to continue to improve how we present the data so the consumer can clearly understand it.

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Angela
I love that you brought up our PR because so many MLS models are starting to go to the MLS only membership. Maybe you don’t have to be a member of the realtor organization to join, but our PR is a realtor. Membership benefits. So I love that you brought that up because that is such a valuable tool.

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Matt
It’s a very valuable tool. Arizona Regional MLS has allowed MLS only membership since 1996, but it’s not an uncommon practice for us. And there are certain things that when we provision MLS only memberships, they don’t gain access to, and that is one of them. And it’s a tool that is is so deeply rooted in data. It was founded back in 0809.

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Matt
And they’ve just made improvements every year. And the greatest improvement they’ve made lately is a picture into the commercial aspect, whether you don’t whether you deal with commercial or not, it’s not important. But knowing where commercial is happening around your farm area is very valuable. Where I live, there’s a very large piece of land that I drive by three or 4 or 5 times a week, and only because I follow data so much, I learned that this could be a huge, massive project.

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Matt
I’m very excited about what it’s going to bring to the neighborhood and that type of data you’ll find in our PR, you’ll find what’s happening in those.

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Angela
Which is a great service to be able to talk to your customers about, to let them know what’s happening when they see that property and they’re wanting to know what that is. So, great, great example. Thank you for that. So let’s talk about MLS policy and particularly about the delayed marketing exempt listings and its impact for Realtors.

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Angela
A lot of people are asking questions about that.

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Matt
There’s a ton of questions about it, partly because it’s a mouthful and it’s confusing what the intent was. Right. And so I think I think the MLS is they can tell a better story by sharing what the intent of this is. So roll back the clock to 2019 and clear cooperation policy is voted on. And the color cooperation policy says if you’re publicly marketing it, it has to be in the MLS.

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Matt
If you’re a member of the MLS, and if you’re not publicly marketing it, just keep it a secret for your sphere. And that’s okay, too. That’s called the office exclusive, policy. The office exclusive policy still exist, but when you take a billboard up on a highway, when you put a big sign in the front yard, when you put spotlights swirling around, it’s time to tell the MLS that that property’s listed so the MLS can inform all of our agents going back to that network effect of that transparency piece.

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Matt
So when clear cooperation was voted in, there’s many in the industry who ask, hey, what are we going to come up with a coming soon status or a delayed marketing status? When are we going to come up with some rules? Create consistency. There’s nine. MLS is in Arizona. All nine of us implemented clear cooperation successfully on time, but we all did a little tweaking with our comingsoon status or delayed marketing status.

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Matt
And this is Na’s attempt to bring some some form of unification around those desperate and different rule sets. They did not create a mandate that it must be X, Y, and z on x days and y days. With this many, showings or no showings, what they did was they brought the concept forward of brokers and agents need this.

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Matt
We need to have a relief for this. And this is the concepts that MLS should talk about locally. And set local rules for their local marketplace. I compliment Nar that they are really gravitating to the belief that there are many things that are local, give the framework and the and the opportunity of where the where the decision needs to be made, but let the local MLS make those decisions based on that local marketplace.

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Matt
So the delayed marketing status I, I MLS in 2020 saw a need for this. So we had a whole bunch of rules around what you could do with them. With a 30 day window of pre marketing. So when this policy came out from there, we didn’t have to change anything because we’d seen what was going to happen.

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Matt
There is one thing we missed. We weren’t. Our crystal ball was a perfect to have a little shadow in it. We didn’t we didn’t see a statement to sellers notifying the intent of the MLS and the benefits of the MLS. That’s a clause that was in the delayed marketing policy for Nar. And since we don’t draft forms, we left that to the state association to help us with and the state association drafted a little clause in the ER in the EEA, and then a single form, a larger page form that has goes into more detail that the homeowner is expected to sign off on.

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Matt
And it’s going to be an easy transition for us. It’s September 30th is the deadline. But for us, it’ll be an easy transition for those who molasses that understand what was efficient for brokers and agents years ago probably had a lot of this work done already. Right. And for MLS, as it didn’t have any of the work done, they have some lifting to do, but fortunately it’s not a huge lift because the local marketplace gets to decide the timing and even to the point of zero.

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Matt
When we talk about local marketplace deciding on the timing, there are some larger molasses. That said, nuh. Now this doesn’t work for our marketplace. So sure, we’ll implement the policy in in zero days that you can have a home in that, in that, in that status. And that’s a choice. That’s fine. It’s driven by the brokers and the agents.

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Angela
Make sense. So when you talk about data and policies, let’s talk about data standardization. Because that’s another thing we hear a lot about. And I know that’s been around for some time, but the impact on the cooperation amongst other MLS is across the country and how that comes into play from MLS to MLS, can you explain that a little bit?

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Matt
There’s an organization called Reso Real Estate Standards Organization. And so in the last 15 years has really matured. Well, they’ve been around longer. They’ve really matured well in the last 15 years. And they produce a document called the Data Dictionary. And we move to the Data Dictionary 2.0 a couple of years back. And it’s that concept of standardization that they’re focusing on.

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Matt
And most of my lessons have not become Data Dictionary 2.0. Native. Most of us map our data fields to that, but even the mapping of the data fields to that creates more consistency. So when you have a broker that’s across multiple MLS is when you have a vendor that’s across multiple MLS is in multiple states. That consistency is helping them improve their process and improve their data intake.

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Matt
The really great MLS is and I am not one of those yet, but the really great MLS is look to the native fields, which really creates, tremendous opportunity when you have two native MLS is utilizing the same terms and the same enumerations. That is a powerful force that they can come together and do things together. We do a lot of mapping still, but we’re getting better.

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Matt
We are in the midst of changing our bathroom enumerations to the reso native. And that’s a that’s a significant change for agents. And brokers have been doing it certain way for 20, 30 years, and now we’re changing a little bit. Fortunately, it’s an easy change for them to understand, but we do have to think about all that past data.

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Matt
We have to make sure that we don’t break the link to all that past data, because we want our agents to be able to record and use that in statistical purposes and statistical tools. That’s why we’re not racing fast to the end of this finish line. But every MLS is working a little bit more each time that they touch their data to get more native.

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Matt
And if we were to take what we’ve learned for the last few years on this data dictionary topic, it allows us to transport data and share data differently than we ever have. And anyone who’s listening to this that, follows some of the national headlines on our space sees that we have major, major large metro areas sharing data with each other.

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Matt
Some of it I don’t know if it makes sense to me, but I’m impressed that some of my peers from California, to the Midwest to Florida are exchanging data in a way that just helps tools and understanding of the marketplace.

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Angela
And when you talk about shared data, talk about the benefits of a why markets might share data.

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Matt
How they share data, hopefully for referral purposes. That’s one of the great benefits of the EPR platform, is it has all the properties in there. And if you have a family member or friend who’s moving to another area, you can research that market and try to find a good referral agent for them. It also allows, certainly if you’re in a geographic region where you’re, you know, about each other, where you’re close to each other, it allows you to see a cleaner, better picture of that territory, that state, that region.

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Matt
When you have these large data shares across multiple states on the way to the destination, it’s for it’s for the impact of of understanding that market. An example is, is Wisconsin and Arizona actually share some customers? Sometimes Illinois and Arizona share some customers sometimes many of our folks here have homes there for the winter and the summer.

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Matt
And so having the ability to understand that market a little bit better, I think it’s good for an agent that works with that type of clientele. I said earlier, I don’t know if I fully understand it. I’m not sure that we’ve really grasp the concept that I’m looking for a four bedroom and three bath, show me the house I love, and I’ll move to wherever it is.

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Matt
I’m not so sure that’s a benefit with these major data share. It’s been announced recently, but I’m really a fan where you have a connected marketplace like an Illinois, Wisconsin, Arizona, where you have a connected marketplace like Phoenix, Tucson, Flagstaff, Prescott, our geography. I like the concept of those folks sharing data, and it doesn’t happen often enough. In my opinion.

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Angela
So what do you expect to see from the MLS system in the next five years? In the next ten years, if you had to have that crystal ball, what would you look at and see?

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Matt
I would say the volume of change we’ve seen in the last 20 years to the MLS. So I’m going from, from, late dial up to the system we have today, that volume of change we will replicate in the next 2 to 3 years. And we are going to innovate in ways we never have. I is going to come along and both support the customer experience differently, but it’s also going to support the input of data differently.

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Matt
An example of that is, is there are AIS out there right now that you load your photo deck in, and it identifies everything in your photos and starts populating where that data could go, starts tagging the photos with what it is fireplace, refrigerator, stove. And it starts tagging those with what’s called metadata. And there will be a tool that comes out.

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Matt
I don’t think I’ve seen it yet, but I can dream it. It will be a tool that comes out, takes all that metadata and starts populating into the listing for you automatically, especially when you can take an older listing and have that as your footprint for the next listing. And you load new photos and it can start changing what was in there.

00;17;48;04 – 00;18;17;04
Matt
Because because you’ve done this to the home, you’ve done that to the home, you put a pool on the back, that type of stuff. And so I think we’re going to see a tremendous volume of change that’s coming forward that will create opportunities for agents that are willing to engage with technology to be far more efficient. We have a whole group of agents that are that are digital immigrants, like myself, and we have a group of agents that are digital natives, the digital natives and the digital immigrants they’re willing to embrace.

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Matt
Technology will be able to run faster and just do things better. I don’t believe any agent will be. I don’t believe any agent will be be be. I’m having a hard time on that. So I’m going to try that one again. I don’t believe any agent will be replaced by an AI tool, but I believe agents that embrace AI tools will be the ones that rise to the top.

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Angela
So I think you’ll ever I don’t think you’re ever going to take the personal touch away.

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Matt
You need those community relationships. You need that that cup of coffee and that discussion. Because this is an emotional process and an emotional purchase. But when you can embrace the ability to load your data in faster, to search your data better, it’s another aspect I didn’t talk about. Search in the MLS will change. It’ll change because of all this metadata and these photo tags that when your client starts liking homes, have a certain flavor and a feel.

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Matt
The technology will start surfacing more and more homes that look more like that. The client likes a certain look in the kitchen. For myself, I’m all about the garage space. I’m a car guy, and so I’m always about the car space and it’ll learn very quickly. Don’t show massive homes with two car garages if it doesn’t have at least 3 or 4, he’s not going to be interested.

00;19;37;17 – 00;19;53;04
Matt
And it has a lift in the garage. He’s going to get really excited. So surface that one to the top. It’s that type of change that will see the data. Still the data we still have 400 data fields that we will need to look at. They’ll still be search on those data fields. We’ll just get better at how those search results come out.

00;19;53;06 – 00;20;03;07
Angela
So those are AUC is becoming more the tool that helps make the agents or the the buyer a little bit more proficient in finding what they’re looking for.

00;20;03;09 – 00;20;21;25
Matt
I yes, I agree with that statement completely. It will it will equip better results. And that’s just that’s just the that’s just the tip of the iceberg. There’s so many more things that will happen with the MLS space. I do believe we’ll see more and more evolution and consolidation of the MLS. I think we’ll have a few fewer.

00;20;22;00 – 00;20;39;10
Matt
We went from 900 and something down to 500 and something right now, but I think we’ll dip our toe into the four hundreds in the next few years. And we’re not losing anyone is just MLS is are coming together for the efficiency of the brokers. The agents are coming together because being an MLS, it’s harder than it’s ever been in my 20 plus years in this space.

00;20;39;13 – 00;21;01;16
Matt
And there are some really great marketplaces that just don’t have the energy for all the lift and also some of the legal stuff that’s around us that, that that really takes a time away from you. And so I think there’s more and more MLS is it’ll talk to each other about how they partner and some of them emerge and some of what will just partner on tools to give a better experience to agents.

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Angela
So I know you’re involved with see MLS do you want do you want to talk about what the MLS says? Before I go on with my question.

00;21;09;20 – 00;21;30;04
Matt
The Council of Multiple Listing Services, they are the trade organization of MLS is of the 500. Some on MLS is out there 200 and change belong to seamless. They have a conference each year. The conference focuses 100 mls topics. And what’s the evolution of the MLS? And I am fortunate and privilege to serve on their board of directors, there for another year or so.

00;21;30;04 – 00;21;41;04
Matt
And that will be my last stint. I will have turned out, and somebody else will come along and take that seat and contribute, wildly to the success of the MLS in the future. But they’re a great trade organization representing MLS.

00;21;41;06 – 00;22;03;21
Angela
Right. And and years ago, when I ran MLS is I’ve gone to many of their conferences. So I know they’ve kept up with many topics and things that really do impact MLS. But one of the things I always enjoyed was watching their predictions on what was going to impact MLS. All of the tools and techniques, all of those types of things coming.

00;22;03;29 – 00;22;22;23
Angela
So I can remember way back when this is going to age me, way back when, when it was all about virtual reality and the virtual tours and all of that type of thing. So what’s the next shiny object that everybody’s anticipating to be the next hot thing that we should watch out for?

00;22;22;25 – 00;22;45;15
Matt
The virtual tours have become more and more common, and for plans on the MLS have become more and more common. There’s some MLS has been, mandating that every listing must have a floor plan. I wouldn’t be surprised if photos really start to taking a backseat to these for these walkthrough tours of home. I don’t think we’ll get that headset immersive experience, but we could.

00;22;45;17 – 00;23;04;02
Matt
I think in the short term, we’ll see more and more adoption of this concept of of being able to walk through the home because it’s been mapped by something like a matterport or that similar style technology, and that I think is going to take the forefront of how buyers interact with homes more so than just flat photos.

00;23;04;04 – 00;23;09;24
Angela
Yeah, it’s amazing how technology is just evolved over time.

00;23;09;26 – 00;23;30;07
Matt
It’s moving faster than ever and it will continue to move faster. And that’s just the nature of technology. It’s Moore’s law in action and in our real estate space, we we are not the quickest to adopt newest technology. We’re not the quickest to embrace technology as a as a community. And I think we’re going to see that get push harder and harder over the next few years.

00;23;30;09 – 00;23;46;12
Matt
It’s just a natural organic evolution, which is why I think some of the agents and some of the MLS is will struggle a little bit because they’re going to have a hard time keeping up in that race, at which point in time it’s time to time to get in the game or partner with somebody else that can help you with that lift.

00;23;46;15 – 00;24;04;04
Matt
There’s phenomenal agents that I know and phenomenal peers of my own that just don’t love technology. So find a good friend or partner that does love technology, and let them be your copilot and let them walk with you on that journey, and you’ll still find great success. Because because some of us are great with relationships and let somebody else manage it.

00;24;04;04 – 00;24;09;24
Matt
But realize technology is, is is in the transaction and it’s going to get more so and more so.

00;24;09;26 – 00;24;24;15
Angela
Absolutely. So, Matt, as we kind of come to the end and we’re winding down, what would you what would be your last thoughts and your final words to someone listening to this that has interest in MLS and where it’s headed?

00;24;24;18 – 00;24;47;27
Matt
Certainly. You can follow the council multiple listing services only, office can be members, but you can follow what they’re doing and they’re a good indicator of where the MLS is going. I don’t know, an MLS that doesn’t love a great volunteer that doesn’t come in and help them understand the transactions. We have multiple what we call listening post, which are groups that come together quarterly, typically that help us understand the transaction.

00;24;48;03 – 00;25;03;17
Matt
None of us on staff hold a license. And so as a result, if we don’t have that good voice, we don’t understand what the transaction needs are, what the transaction is. So at the end of the day, somebody who wants to get more involved in MLS in a year holds a couple events and there’s a large MLS committee.

00;25;03;22 – 00;25;21;26
Matt
Follow that. Follow. Seamless, definitely. But more importantly, get involved locally. That’s where your voice can matter and that’s where your energy and your passion can matter. I love the realtor association. I’ve said for a long time that the MLS of the future is built on a strong realtor brand, but I’m not a realtor. I don’t understand what running a realtor association would ever be.

00;25;21;29 – 00;25;35;11
Matt
I’m a data guy and I love talking to agents about what they need from the data so we can figure out how to surface that better for them. But if they are talking to us, we’re just data. Data folks sitting in the back room trying to get the data right, and we don’t know if we’re doing it or not.

00;25;35;15 – 00;25;38;22
Matt
So volunteer, get involved, say something.

00;25;38;25 – 00;26;03;16
Angela
Well, you have always been a great volunteer. And like I said, I just appreciate everything you do in that MLS space and know that you know so much about it. So thank you for sharing your wisdom. And I know that everybody in Arizona appreciates everything you do. I’m hoping you stay cool out there because I know how hot it is right now.

00;26;03;19 – 00;26;15;03
Matt
It is hot, but it’s our summers and we’re used to it. I’ve been here for a long time. I’ll think of you all in December and January because. Because we’re walking around in shorts and playing golf. So it’s just a trade off.

00;26;15;06 – 00;26;23;20
Angela
We’re getting a little bit of your heat right now. It’s really. We’re in this heat advisory thing right now, but, nothing like what you’re going through. So,

00;26;23;23 – 00;26;24;24
Matt
We’re used to it. That’s the.

00;26;24;24 – 00;26;36;04
Angela
Difference. Yeah. No we’re not. But thank you again so much for joining us. We really do appreciate everything you shared and, just want to say thank you.

00;26;36;06 – 00;26;55;11
Matt
Absolutely. It’s a pleasure to be here. I hope that, some of the words make sense to those that are listening and watching. And at the end of the day, MLS is here. There are folks who are calling for the end of the MLS. Their folks are saying, we’re going to have one in MLS. At the end of the day, I’m sorry, I’ve been around 20 years, and from day one I’ve heard there’s only going to be one MLS and the MLS is dead.

00;26;55;13 – 00;27;08;23
Matt
No, no, the MLS is a valuable tool. It’s a tool that agents and and brokers and the home buyers and the home sellers need. Let’s make it strong. Let’s contribute to it. Let’s keep great data. Let’s just make a great MLS for the future.

00;27;08;25 – 00;27;17;24
Angela
We need I agree, I agree and I know you’ll keep doing that. Well don’t be surprised if we call you back again.

00;27;17;27 – 00;27;20;02
Matt
I be happy to join anytime there’s an opportunity.

00;27;20;05 – 00;27;22;22
Angela
Thank you, thank you, thank you very much.